S2EP33-Mark Entrekin-Building Bridges: How to Achieve Unity in Families and Workplaces

Herb: 00:00:19

Today I have the pleasure of introducing Mark Entrekin. Mark is a dynamic chief transformational officer, seasoned speaker, coach, consultant with over 40 years of leadership experience.

With a master's in organizational management, a bachelor's in Business Information systems, and multiple leadership certifications, Mark empowers individuals, corporations, educational institutions and organizations to unlock their full potential. He is the creator of seven Quick steps to Achieving Unity Success formula.

Building bridges that strengthen communication, collaboration and lasting success.

From the bedroom to the boardroom and all rooms in between, Mark's passionate, results driven approach transformed division into connection and frustration into focus. He inspires audiences to prioritize what matters most, achieve long term growth and lead lives of greater unity and impact. Welcome, Mark.

It is a pleasure to have you here. That stuff that goes well into business goes well in the family.

So it's going to be really interesting how we transform this from a business talk into a family talk. And I'm really looking forward to hearing from you today.

Mark Entrekin: 00:01:28

Herb, thank you so much for you and Christina both. It's an honor and a pleasure to be here. I love what you're doing and helping families and become more vibrant in the educational process.

My parents weren't and I would have loved to have a little bit more help and someone just to. Even if they didn't have the answer, someone to talk it through.

Kristina: 00:01:50

Absolutely. And that's, you know, like you said, what our core mission is.

Making sure these families are taking the education and making it vibrant, making it work for their child. And that is so wonderful. Tell us a little bit more about your passion. How did you get into your sense seven steps and what kind of drove that?

What was that pivotal point that brought this to. I need to share this with a lot more people.

Mark Entrekin: 00:02:14

That's a great question because it goes way back. It goes into the time, right? Well, it goes into the time we move.

When I was just starting the third grade, we lived in southern Mississippi and it was during the time of integration and the battles in Washington and some of the very most violent times in racial issues. And we moved from a small town in southern Mississippi out to a town in southeastern New Mexico in the Permian Basin oil industry.

And me being coming into the third grade, I knew so little. And sometimes I wonder how much I know now. But even then it was going from what was more of a.

A black community is sometimes called to a Hispanic community, just a little bit lighter color. And I don't know if you notice, but I'm not white by any means.

I mean, I have a blue shirt on but there's no way that I'm white, not the color white, somebody could rate me that way. But anyway that's where it all started. Then I went to or I was about to go to college, had a scholarship at the University of Alabama I was thrilled.

Do you remember the coach, Bear Bryant?

Now I wasn't there on sports scholarship, I was there for scholastic but I would have been there for some of his absolute best years in college football and I was just so ready for that. But I was injured in an automobile accident.

My brother in law, they were coming home after dinner and they told me it was the front left tire blew out we went into the ditch, I went through the windshield.

I've got scars on my hand, scars on my chin, lots of scars on the side of my head as they took me, they flew me by helicopter from southern Mississippi to central Mississippi to a neuro unit because I had glass in my head. It was pretty dramatic, it was ready that I would not live. That's what put in the paper, not expected to live.

And the point of that is Hattiesburg was a very dark skinned town, I mean there's a lot of that. So why, where did the blood that I received come from?

Do we think that hey Mark's got friends that are going to college or about his age and about the same education level he is. Let's go get blood from them and help Mark out. Well that sounds good in theory but that's not the way it happens.

It could have been anyone in Hattiesburg, Mississippi that had gave blood, donated blood, that kept me alive and then after that the whole process and recovering, six months recovery, it was pretty dramatic but then I got a divorce just a few years later after, after college and I wanted you know, full contact with my children. Pretty simple. Mom, dad, two kids, you know they should still be parents. Not in the court system, that's not the way it works.

We had a deadbeat dead dad syndrome going on and some guy who didn't pay, who won the lottery, didn't give him money to his ex, didn't give money to his children and there's bad people everywhere.

I mean you know that you stina her there's some features aren't so good, I mean it's just everybody, nobody's perfect But I walk into that courtroom and you would have thought I was carrying sometimes across the bear. It was, it was terrible.

And then I got involved in the children's rights council then fathers equal rights and started building on that and I started seeing all of the prejudices that we have today that we don't think about and we talk about families and family education. This was a culture that I was growing up in. This was a learning that many, many, many people had.

All because that's just what we learn what Johnny does, we learn what Janie does and we follow. We learn what Susie does, learn what Sammy does, we follow. These things had to end. And I thought this was the best way for it.

Working in IT and computers was speaking a lot, was training a lot. I've been an adjunct professor for DeVry University for Denver, University of Denver.

Let's start putting this more into an action or I think I can help more people. And that's what brought me the point that we are the same, all of us.

That blood I talked about in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, it could come from anyone because there's only four blood types. Type A, type B, type A, B and typo. That's it. I don't care if I'm in Hasburg, Mississippi.

Macon, Georgia, South America, Central America, Scandinavia, Russia, China. That's the way it is.

So we have got to learn, we have all got to learn to make this world a better, better place, that we are the same, whether we like it or not.

Kristina: 00:07:17

Yeah, that is so. So, yeah. Everything you said is like, what do we teach our children?

How do we show them the differences and the beauty of the same sameness of everyone? You know, how do we really make sure that our kids grow up in a society in a space where they are looking deeper than just the outside of somebody?

What's, what's happening inside where their feelings, their emotions, their kindness, their strengths, even their weaknesses at times that really help us understand each other.

Herb: 00:07:46

Yeah. And the simple term is we all bleed red. And that just, that just story just really drives it home to the point.

Mark Entrekin: 00:07:54

Now it's so true. I mean, urban. It's one of the situations that we're just not taught that.

And I bet everyone has learned somewhat about blood and about people and about going to the doctor in school, but were never taken to the level that opens up that door that says, hey, we are the same no matter where we're from. And that's one thing we have to take with us. And that's why this work about education at home brings such a strong value to so many people.

Because our government, I mean, how many regulations are there? I was just talking to an attorney on my podcast on Wednesday and the regulations, it's not just the law.

The law is written, but the regulations are what puts it into action.

Herb: 00:08:49

And one of the last few places that America's have true liberty is in the education of their children. They have the right and the ability at any point to take them out of school and educate them themselves.

And that right is, is one of very few that have that level of extreme free freedom for, for the people. And they don't understand it and they don't take advantage of it.

Mark Entrekin: 00:09:17

And that's a good point too, because we talked about the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and how they're different because Declaration Independence was our freedom from, from Europe. And our Constitution is the way we make that happen, make it work.

Like you're saying, those freedoms that we have, we've got to know them to exercise them. And as you're mentioning, that ability for us to teach our children is so important, but almost like the blood type.

Herb: 00:09:55

So it's also about the getting rid of the isms that we're all the same. How do we then turn that into a coaching business? Where, where do we go from there? And how are we helping people?

And how does, how can we then translate that into what you're helping corporations? How do we translate that into helping families?

What is it that you, you took this, this amazing information that you figured out and what did you do with it?

Mark Entrekin: 00:10:24

Empowering families. Strengthening. Strengthening communities and inspiring lasting change. That improvement by empowering our families, we will strengthen our communities.

And when I say communities, I mean everywhere. That includes the workplace, the offices, our social, everywhere, which will inspire lasting change.

That's what we do is the Achieving Unity Success formula. And it's been in my newsletter for the last 10 weeks. We've been talking about the EI encouraging, inspiring and including others.

That's where it has to come in that empowering the family to be able to be knowledgeable enough that they can take charge. Because at the heart of every thriving community, which includes every thriving family, is the strength of the family itself.

It's for anyone that's serving the youth, our parents, the underserved communities where so many are wanting to learn and wanting to know more about these rights. They want to know, they want to help, and they would be a great help if they just knew just a little bit more.

That's one of the most impactful shifts that we can make, that we can make and bring that burning growth and unity into the home.

Herb: 00:11:55

Where do they start? We have the, we have someone here listening is like, okay, I've heard this enough. Time to get started. Where do we start? What, what do I start? Doing?

How do I start making that difference?

Mark Entrekin: 00:12:07

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And that's 303 focused on your dial. Start with me. Let me help. Let's get that ball rolling and keep that ball rolling. You can go out to my website, www.achievingunity.com.

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Subscribe to my newsletter. It's on that site. Www.markentrican.com www.achievingunity.com www.realityfocus.com Connect with me. Let's work together. Because I cannot do it alone.

That's what unity is. None of us can do it alone. It takes more than one. And us working together, us being here today is just one example.

So if you have any listeners that want to get started, they may already have a lot more than I do for, for example. But that doesn't mean that we can't still join together in unity to build that next step for ourselves and for others.

Kristina: 00:13:36

So when our parents are sitting down talking with their kids about this is like, you know, how do we deal with little Susie down the street who we're not quite getting along with? Right. There's something going on.

How do we get those parents to help the child focus on that unity and see that maybe there's differences between them that is causing the issues or what can they connect with that would make the situation better?

Mark Entrekin: 00:14:00

That is a great question, Christina. Because first thing is we can't teach those who don't want to learn.

So we have to start with ourselves there so we can open, open up and be able to visualize what other people are going through. Because as we talked about earlier, we have cultures and everyone is raised differently.

So let's, I mean, let's just pull Susie and Sammy out of the name Bucket and say Susie down the street thinks something that Sammy up the street thinks doesn't think. The first thing we've got to ask is, why do you think that? Where did you learn that?

Because many times when we think about it, when we think about where did I learn to do what I do, where did I create my comfort levels which turn into habits? So we need to think about that and then we need to think, is it that important? Because one thing that I teach over and over Is anger has no value.

Anger has no value. What does anger stand for? Actions not gaining effective results. A, N, G, E, R Anger. Actions not gaining effective results.

So why do we even think that way? And if we think some way, why are we. Why do we have anchor? It's all a learning experience, isn't it?

Herb: 00:15:39

So that. That's a difficult concept to get across to children. So how do we start teaching that to children?

Mark Entrekin: 00:15:48

Asking questions. We have too many people, and I was there once also too many people. We have opinions. I call it the hmo. Hmo. Hmo.

Here's my opinion, here's my opinion, here's my opinion. And every time the majority of us, when we walk into a room, we're going to say something. The counter is dirty, the floor is slippery.

I had trouble on the way to work this morning. Somebody pulled. Pulled in front of me. We've got to get out of those statements and start getting into questions.

And when somebody says, how are you today? Don't be already planning your response. Listen, a little bit of empathy. How are they doing? And too many times we're going to hear something wrong.

Many times we'll see or hear, oh, I'm fine. But you can listen to their voice. You can say, that doesn't sound like a fine voice.

But whenever somebody says, I'm fine, say, oh, what have you been up to lately? Have you done anything fun? How's. If you know their family? How's this your son, daughter? How's, you know, what have you been up to? What are your.

What's your favorite hobby? Who's your favorite. If you're in a sports town, who's your favorite football team, baseball team, whatever?

Ask questions, generate that ability to become more knowledgeable. It won't be a test, but you can know these things and talk to people. And it does start young.

I mean, Herb, you're right on track, because kids aren't taught that. So that's what we need to start. We need to start with our children, teach them well. Why are you mad at somebody?

Because they did this or they did that or because they like Johnny? Are they like Janie? Why is that a problem? Asking those questions in that home education means so much in how we get started in what we do.

Kristina: 00:18:00

I love the curiosity of that, because you can't be really in judgment if you're curious, if you really truly want to figure out what's going on and what's underneath, you know, either that opinion or that thing that happened or the upsetness that is going on.

If you're in curiosity and trying to find out more, you know, one of the things we talk with our parents a lot is start with that curiosity and then don't offer the solution. Stay curious.

Instead, let the child kind of think through and kind of figure out what their solution might be or until they get stuck, and then say, do you want another question? Do you want to hear what some other kids do? You know?

So again, you're not giving them the solution, but you're letting them kind of think it through and being curious about it.

Mark Entrekin: 00:18:42

And that's a good idea too, because when someone says, no, why not? It's a question of why, why not? Why not? Now, from Jim Rohn is one that came up with that. What, what do we want to know? Why do we want to know it?

Why not know it? And why not know it now? Get their children to learn this, get out of that. Here's my opinion.

We get to more of what are some other opinions maybe we can think about? Even as you're mentioning parents helping with homework, there are a lot of parents that don't want to help with homework because they're afraid.

Especially today with computers. Many kids know more about the computer than the parents. There are many kids now, as you mentioned, I've been in computers for a long, long time.

I, when I went to college, we still had the punch cards. Punch cards. You punch holes in them too. And that's the way it was when I first started. So I've been here a while.

But even as I say that they have all these new languages and new subroutines and new functions, and I have no idea. I do know how those programs work down deep inside. I know the data where it's all stored, but how they work and how they function.

And does the F1 key do this or control X do that or.

Herb: 00:20:06

Yeah, that's one of the myths we break in in some of our talks is, is parents think that they're not qualified to teach their children because they don't know this. I was bad in math at school, so how can I teach my children math? And so we help break that myth.

It's like, well, because as you're teaching them, you might find something you missed and you don't necessarily have to be the teacher. There's lots of programs and stuff that can assist with that. So it's not necessary.

But as you're helping, even if you're not necessarily understanding, the way you can question and work through a problem is probably more important that they learn that than it is if you give them the answer. So yeah, helping them with their, with their homework when you don't know is probably just as important of a lesson as helping them when you do.

Mark Entrekin: 00:21:00

And I appreciate that so much because it goes back to what you're saying. Encouraging.

Well, both of you are saying encouraging curiosity and discussion because it's too hard that if we're not learning it at home, how are we going to exercise it when we're out of the home?

And that includes going to school because there's too many times that as you mentioned, kid comes home from school and is not in a good mood or something's wrong. The parents sometimes don't know how to, but sometimes they just don't ask what's wrong. Well, we parents have their own problems. Well, we do.

But if we're going to be a good parent, we need to take on those responsibilities and ask. Learn how to learn how to listen. That's why I say listen in dialogue.

L I d be able to listen and create conversation even though there's be times that you're not going to, we're not going to understand, especially get on the computer side what they're talking about and how many new programs there are. And there's a game this and game that and game plus one game plus 99. We can't keep up with all that. I don't think anyone can.

But as you're talking about that ability to encourage that curiosity, encourage that discussion, help them lean into teaching even though they're teaching us as parents, let them be able to teach more, speak more, create a home culture that values learning, even if sometimes the parents are learning. We've got to verify, we've got to clarify and we've got to make sure that we're thinking about valuing that learning process.

Herb: 00:22:50

And if you are having a learning opportunity, include your children in it very much.

So if you are working on the seven attributes and working to get focused, make sure your children can see you doing that and seeing you improve because oh, Dad's going to school too. He, he's got to do that even at his age.

So, so getting that understanding out there and modeling to your children that even you still get to learn stuff and go to school.

Mark Entrekin: 00:23:19

That is so true.

And even though for some of us that are, they're relatively retired, I'm still learning, I'm still going, I'm still going everywhere I can because there's so much to learn still. If we just allow that to happen and I would love to go to a school event, for example.

But I remember back in the day, I would go to a school event, and my ex, because I was there, wouldn't go to the school event.

And even there are times when we're both there, I would be one or two of 20 other people there that were all mothers and moms or teachers, and the teachers were mostly female. It's a situation where we've got to open up and learn, as you're talking about, that it's good that we're there. It's good that there's a partnership.

And I do work with a lot of couples that are divorced, but in some ways, they get along better not being the married part. Even though they have a child, they're still a mom and a dad. They still get along better.

And they can even laugh more about that kid growing up and being at those things together. It creates that community. Don't forget, community ends with u n I t y unity.

So we can put that together, and we all come together and talk and share, listen in dialogue and be able to receive more of what we hear. Right.

Herb: 00:24:53

I'm sure that almost all of your listeners and all of our listeners are like absolute experts and know everything about what we're talking about. And so they're just listening in to feel how right they are. They're not learning any.

So I know that, you know, over 100 episodes, that the reason this is still really interesting and the reason I love doing this is I learn so much. That's the reason I listen to other people's podcasts and, you know, make sure that you're, you know, you're sharing that with your children as well.

He's like, wow, listen, look at. I'm still learning, too.

And there's so much that by interviewing people, the process of asking questions, how much we learn, the process of listening to these podcasts, it's like you might hear something and it might not be relevant for a year, but then a year later, it's like, you'll do something like, oh, I heard this. This. My mom told me I had a problem here with some yard work.

And my mom told me a joke that she heard as a kid, and I was able to fix one of my tools because of a joke. And it's like the. The weird little wave information comes at you if you're just listening.

I tease my mom a lot because in the joke, it's like the person that fixes it was called stupid. So I teased my mom. She called me stupid. My mom would never Say that.

Mark Entrekin: 00:26:09

Right.

Kristina: 00:26:10

So I want to jump back for a second to what you were talking about. The parents going to school and to the school events. Right.

One of the key indicators I saw as a teacher when I was in the classroom was that whenever the parents showed up, even though they were divorced, when they could get along enough to come to conferences together or come to school events together, that help those kids be so much more successful. Successful because they knew that they had people behind them that cared. They knew that people were working things out for their benefit. Right.

And they knew that they were a priority. So it just.

Mark Entrekin: 00:26:49

They did. They do.

Kristina: 00:26:51

If you're divorced and you are having a hard time with your spouse, can you set it aside for the child in specific entrance instances? I don't mean walk all over each other. Right. But for those specific instances, put it aside and really put that child first.

Mark Entrekin: 00:27:08

You're making so much, so much sense what you're saying, Christina. Because again, that's one of those things that if they can go together and then listen in dialogue. Not again, as we talk about our opinions. Hmo, hmo.

Here's my opinion, here's my opinion. Be able to listen and learn. Because all of us are very intelligent, everyone on this earth, if they take that opportunity. We all have a bit.

There's some exceptions, of course, in the medical world, but if we're there together and we want our child to learn, we have to show them how it's done.

And if we keep fighting and as you're mentioning, if they have to do two parent parental sessions, one with the mom and one with the dad, that's not showing that child unity, that's not showing teamwork. They've got to come together and go and listen.

And as you mentioned, what the two of you are doing about bringing parents education into the home and brings the parents into the school, it opens up so much more for the children. And again, when I was young, my dad didn't do those things. That wasn't part of the culture.

But today it is more the culture if we just take advantage of it.

Herb: 00:28:29

So as you mentioned, slightly a different experience growing up.

So I guess I was one of the lucky ones because my parents, whenever they asked for chaperones, it's like my whole class would be like, hey, can her parents be the chaperones? So my parents showed up a lot.

My mom was be the one that showed up at track practice with like a bag of orange slices and, and the track meets and be. So that, that was my experience and, and my, that that aspect of my school life was. Was really grand. So, yeah, that's great.

So, yeah, some of this conversation is like, if I'm not talking much, it's because it's like, I don't have that experience. So. But I can tell you that it's awesome, the experience that I did have. And so I'm very thankful.

Mark Entrekin: 00:30:58

I'm so happy for you, too, because it's. You're someone that can help share with others, and it does happen. This is not something unique or this is not winning the lottery.

This is something that does happen, happens with good parents, but it's knowledgeable parents, because if they didn't do it. My dad and I were very close, but he never got into any sports with me.

My mother was one of the baseball scorers when I was in Little League, but my dad just didn't do that. That wasn't his upbringing. And my dad and I got along great. We worked on the car together. That was something he enjoyed doing.

He taught me about cars, about the engines and how to change our spark plugs and change the oil, all those things, and even some of the things on the carburetors. But he was never into the sports, but I learned a lot from him.

And that togetherness means so much that a lot of parents today, sometimes mothers, sometimes fathers, don't recognize soon enough. And how many of us don't wish we would have spent one more minute, one more opportunity, our child, after they've gone from being.

As I was talking to my podcast guest yesterday as a young child, seven months old, I said, don't forget now, they start school next week, and the week after that they're in junior high school or middle school, and we can't say they're going to be graduating. And people don't stop and think about that enough. It impacted me, of course.

Herb: 00:32:34

But real quick, what. One thing that I want to add in that is after that, you're left with one person for the rest of your life. So make that.

Mark Entrekin: 00:32:45

How lucky can you be?

Herb: 00:32:47

Make that person important. Because, you know, I talk about it, it's like the kids. The kids are important.

You have to raise them so that hopefully they're there for the rest of your life. But you pick the person that you want to be there for your life. So. So make that so. It's all important. You know, you got to raise it.

You know, you're not raising children, you're raising future adults.

Mark Entrekin: 00:33:09

And.

Herb: 00:33:09

But the one you. You picked has to be your priority. So don't lose your Spouse in the raising of your children.

Mark Entrekin: 00:33:16

That is so true, Herb. I'm glad you brought that up because that is so true. And if you raise your children together, you're raising your children for life.

You've got children, possibly grandchildren, possibly great grandchildren, have a lot of opportunity of a lot of things to enjoy.

And what dad, grandpa, grandma and mother doesn't like doing things with those children and say, oh, I'm only doing this because I'm doing it with the child.

When they're actually doing things that have fun, things we didn't do with, you know, oh, I'm just going fishing because I have to with my son or my daughter. Yeah, right. They're going fishing because they enjoy fishing and enjoying their kids. I'm going bowling. I'll take the kids just because I have to.

No, use that as an opportunity to be part of your child, grandchild's life. Mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, gender, doesn't matter. Be there, do something, make life happen.

Kristina: 00:34:21

Yeah.

And one more thing to layer in here is that, you know, so many of our families think that they have to be giving their child so many different things. We have to go here, do this, have this awesome vacation, be in this sport, be in this club, be in this.

They're so busy that they're missing those inter. Intimate moments. They're missing those moments. So I encourage families at this point to also slow down a little bit, stop.

And have those quiet moments as well as those fun, active, busy moments. But sit, slow down, have those quiet moments, too, and really have that intimate, close relationship and discussion.

Mark Entrekin: 00:34:59

That's. You're saying so much there, too. Because, Christina, that's a situation that many, again, parents don't know. It's not that people are foolish.

As I mentioned earlier, all of us have the chance to learn. But if we're in our corner and we don't get out of that corner, we're only going to know what's in that corner. We're not going to learn anything.

We've got to get out. We've got to empower the families with the tools and the strategies to help our children and all the students succeed. There's so much out there.

But if we don't tell them, if someone's afraid to come out of that corner, we've got to entice them because again, their culture may not lead them there. You've got to help entice them.

We have to bridge that communication between teachers, parents, students, and realize that we are all part of the system. We all play our parts we all work in certain parts, but if we do it together, we have that opportunity to share progress.

And that, again, is student progress, teacher progress, parent progress, grandparent progress. But we can learn a lot of those, those main sources, learn those resources at home first.

Kristina: 00:36:26

Exactly. Yeah. Make sure. Yeah, exactly. Is that. Is that time? Is that listening?

Is everything that we've been saying, that focus, like, is in that big green oval in the middle of your background that people who watch on video will see. And people who are just listening just know there's a big green oval behind him that says focused right there.

Mark Entrekin: 00:36:44

Focus. That's right.

Kristina: 00:36:46

Yeah.

Mark Entrekin: 00:36:47

Yes.

Kristina: 00:36:48

So as we're kind of, you know, thinking about all of this, is there another tip that you can give our families what is something else that they can do to help bring this into reality for them and their family?

Mark Entrekin: 00:36:59

Absolutely. That. I'm so glad you asked that. The Achieving Unity Success formula.

And I have a course starting Aug. 7, first Thursday in August, and we're going to be talking about all of these challenges that we think are there. The Achieving Unity Success formula. AUSF is built on creating intentional, intentional connection, clarity and action.

Aligning individuals, families, communities, all of us, to tie to thrive through the E I I encouraging, inspiring, and including others. We've got to be bringing that learning home. Got to be exercising that learning at home and then take it to work.

Then when something happens at work, we want to be able to handle it there as well and not take the. Bring the anger home. But we need to make sure that we're bringing the learning home, working with that, achieving unity so they parallel each other.

And especially when we explore how they both align with those core elements that we are talking about today, we got to talk about that personal responsibility and that empowerment.

Because if we encourage others and if we inspire others, we are opening a door for success that will be open for as long as they continue to encourage, to inspire, and to include others.

Kristina: 00:38:46

Love it. That is a great message right there to think about. And thank you with us as we're moving in and throughout our day.

Mark, this has been a wonderful conversation.

I really appreciate your time and your effort in joining us today and then sharing these messages with families and other people who really can make a difference. So thank you very much for joining us.

Herb: 00:39:08

Yep. Thank you for.

Mark Entrekin: 00:39:08

Thank you.

Herb: 00:39:09

It is so important what you do. So many people see the problems and they just talk about them or they complain about them, and they don't actually move or do anything.

And then some people actually figure out how to solve the problems. And they keep it to themselves and. And they just.

But you not only figured out how to make it work, you're also out there helping other people do that.

Mark Entrekin: 00:39:28

Thank you.

Herb: 00:39:29

And that is the. The hero's journey.

You, you went out and you found your problem, you slayed your dragon and then you came home and now you're sharing the knowledge with others. And so thank you for being said. Thank you for being part of the solution. Thank you for trying to make the world a better place.

Mark Entrekin: 00:39:45

It is. And trying, don't forget, means you're getting work done. When you're trying, you're doing something, there's a percentage complete.

So let's keep that trying moving forward and doing what we can. And I hope we can continue to work together going forward. Thank you.

Kristina: 00:40:00

Excellent. And all of Mark's information will be down in the show notes. But just one more time, Mark, tell them how to get a hold of you. What's your best one?

Best place to get a hold of you? And like I said, other things will be in the show notes.

Mark Entrekin: 00:40:11

The best way is the easy one to remember. And that is www.achieving unity.com achieving unity.

Kristina: 00:40:20

Beautiful.

Mark Entrekin: 00:40:20

Achieving unity.

Kristina: 00:40:22

All right, audience, you know what to do.

Is that time of the show where if you have found gold nuggets in this show, which I'm pretty sure you did, make sure you take them with you and put them out there and implement them. Use them as your week and your day goes on.

But also, don't forget to share the show like the show, leave some reviews because guess what, Other people, other families are counting on us to share these great info, this great bit of information that will help them raise happy, healthy and successful children. Until next time. Bye for now.

Mark Entrekin: 00:40:53

For now. Thank you. Cheers.