Bonus 12-Amy Todisco-Unlocking the Secrets of Toxin-Free Living

Amy Todisco: 00:00:17

Hey.

Herb: 00:00:19

Today I have the pleasure of introducing Amy Todisco.

Amy, for over 30 years has empowered people to create toxin free sustainable homes, adopt clean diets and embrace natural health practices that genuinely support well being. Every recommendation she shares is rooted in personal research and hands on experience.

From healthy food and green product suggestions and practices to holistic health tools.

Through her Green Living Essentials courses, upcoming Green Living now podcast, and immersive farm tours, workshops and retreats, she's here to offer actionable steps, authentic insights and a supportive community for your journey to healthier eco conscious living. Welcome Amy. It is a pleasure to have you here today. Thank you for joining us.

Amy Todisco: 00:01:08

Oh, thank you so much. I'm delighted.

Kristina: 00:01:10

You know, this is such a perfect match and people will notice that they're watching on YouTube that our background is different. It's Podapalooza in the background and we are at that special event each year where we get to have some bonus people join us.

And today Amy was one of our bonus people. And we are super excited because when we started talking right before we came online, it's like, what is bringing education home?

It's that whole family education. It's the education that we want families to have in all aspects of their life.

Not just learning, not just the school stuff, but helping families be healthy, happy and successful. So Amy, tell us at the beginning, how did this journey start for you? Why this passion for green healthy living?

Amy Todisco: 00:01:51

That's a great question. Thank you.

So I grew up in New York City of all places and my mom was really into the nutritionist, Adele Davis at the time and my stepfather was a chef. And so we basically ate all of our meals made from scratch and you know, with nutrition in mind. So I didn't have junk food in the house.

And then When I was 16, I had my first summer job and I worked in a health food store and I was really excited by the organic food and the supplements and you know, I got a little bit into the household products but not a whole lot until fast forward.

When I was pregnant with my daughter, I found this little non toxic baby book and in it I found out about all the household toxins in everyday products. You know, like our shampoos, our carpets, the paints, the cleaning products.

Everything pretty much that we bring into our home typically has a lot of toxic synthetic ingredients in it.

And you know, as a pregnant mom, I wanted to do everything I could to stay as healthy as possible and make sure that my daughter to be was also going to be as healthy as possible.

So I Being the sort of go big or go home type of person, cleaned everything out of the, the house and brought in all the things that I thought were better. And then I realized, oh my, there's a huge learning curve here. So it was all about, okay, is this really what it says it was?

You know, is this product that's green, actually non toxic. Hmm. So it, it really turned me into a researcher in many ways and then learning a lot through trial and error.

Herb: 00:03:25

Yeah, I, I can kind of understand that because we were into healthier foods for a while and the, the gluten free stuff and the healthy stuff, now that those words are on so many packages and stuff that still isn't healthy for you, it's still ultra processed, you know, but it has these words that are eye catching to say, hey, we're, we're working on it, or we're that, but they really aren't.

Amy Todisco: 00:03:53

So that is such a, that's such a powerful point and so true because I actually wrote an e book on all the label claims and looking up, you know, what does wild caught mean? And what is, you know, non toxic, particularly for food.

And it was shocking to even me, who I've been, you know, doing this for 30 years, and I realized, oh my gosh, wild caught doesn't mean anything. It doesn't, for example. No, unfortunately not.

And then there are certain certifying agencies that you can trust and then others that are, you know, eh.

So I created that ebook, but then I put that information into my eco my online course as well, just because I felt like it was something nobody knows.

Herb: 00:04:33

Yeah, like, like free range chicken means they have like 3ft by 3ft to be able to walk around.

Amy Todisco: 00:04:39

Exactly. And not maybe the outdoor air comes in through the cage, but they're not actually pasture raised.

Herb: 00:04:46

Right.

Amy Todisco: 00:04:46

Yeah. There's so much, so much in the US Food system that is really not good for us.

Kristina: 00:04:53

All right, so the big question is, because we're trying to help families do this, be healthier and happier, can you give us, our audience, a tip or one little thing they can start with? Because like you said, you went all the way and then became overwhelmed.

And we don't want families to put exactly thing on their plate and get overwhelmed.

Amy Todisco: 00:05:11

Absolutely. So there, there's some very easy first steps. And I think starting with food is usually the best use of your time and money.

And so there's something called the Dirty Dozen and the clean 15.

And that is a couple of lists that was created by the Environmental Working Group, which is a nonprofit and it tells you which produce has the most pesticide levels in it and which ones have the least. So the ones that are on the Dirty Dozen list, you'd want to choose organic for that.

And that would be things like strawberries and I believe, spinach and green beans, of all things.

And then the clean 15 are things like avocado that you don't have to get as organic because they really don't have a lot of spray, you know, residues that they've found on them. So that's a really easy way to start. That would be my first suggestion.

Herb: 00:06:03

Yeah. And even if they do spray avocados, you don't eat the peel, so.

Amy Todisco: 00:06:06

Exactly. And it's a pretty thick skin, Right? Yeah.

Kristina: 00:06:10

Where could our families find that list?

Amy Todisco: 00:06:13

So if they go to ewg.org then you'll look for the. Or just type in Dirty Dozen online and you'll find it. It'll take you to the EWG.org website. I have it in my.

My materials as well, but that's probably the fastest way to get it right.

Herb: 00:06:31

You know, one of the. One of the. A real.

Another really easy tip is read the ingredients list, and if there's a word in there that you can't pronounce that you know isn't an actual food, that's.

Amy Todisco: 00:06:41

What I always say.

Herb: 00:06:42

Then donate it. Yeah. If there's words that is like, yeah, you can't pronounce.

Amy Todisco: 00:06:48

Right. And then there's another thing to look for, too. If it's got a little asterisk and you see at the bottom, it says bioengineered ingredients.

Avoid that. You don't want genetically modified stuff.

Kristina: 00:06:58

Gmo.

Amy Todisco: 00:06:59

Gmo. Exactly.

Kristina: 00:07:00

Everywhere. Yeah.

Amy Todisco: 00:07:01

Yeah, exactly.

Kristina: 00:07:03

Oh, my gosh. So then if families are really looking at that information and they're getting overwhelmed, then just do the best they can.

Amy Todisco: 00:07:12

With little steps at a time.

Kristina: 00:07:13

Right.

Amy Todisco: 00:07:14

And so one of the things I really love to emphasize is that it's not about perfection, it's about progress. So even though my particular personality is one that, okay, I'm going to get rid of everything and start fresh, that's not the way everybody else is.

And so just step by step changing things up. You know, like I said, with those lists for the produce, growing your own food is amazing.

If you like gardening or if you thought about gardening, that's another way to really know what's in your. Your food. You know, you can raise your own vegetables, and there's a lot of satisfaction from that.

The picture that I have behind me is actually our organic farm. In Vermont, where I live.

Kristina: 00:07:51

Yep, that looks amazing.

Herb: 00:07:53

I'm not a big fan of gardening.

I do it, I plant stuff, I eat stuff out of my garden, but a lot of it ends up just kind of going back to the earth because I start and then I don't finish. But I blame. I blame my brain damage on that. But the stuff that I do eat, the carrots, they actually taste amazing.

Amy Todisco: 00:08:16

Exactly.

Herb: 00:08:17

The beans that I grow, the beets, it's like when you taste them, it's like, this is different than what you get in a store.

Amy Todisco: 00:08:25

That is so true. And I would say that it's even different from getting organic in the store.

So one of the things that I do in the summer season is I lead these unique food and farm tours. And I love to take people around the farm and have them take a bean off the plant and eat it or, you know, take a piece of kale or a cherry tomato.

And the expressions on people's faces is just incredible to see that they can really tell. Even kale they like. You know, it's amazing.

I actually had a French family come and they had three children who didn't speak any English, and none of the children had eaten vegetables much. They really had to struggle to try to sneak vegetables into their food.

And they were willing to taste things right off the plant, and they loved them.

And then I heard from the parents afterwards, and they said, ever since we came to the farm and they tasted your vegetables, all we have to do is say, these are like Dave and Amy's and the children will eat them. And I thought, oh, my gosh, that is so cool. To be able to impact somebody, you know, on that level made me really happy.

Herb: 00:09:28

Yeah. We have a lot of farmers markets in our area, so that's a great thing.

Kristina: 00:09:33

Yeah.

Herb: 00:09:33

But New York City is not known for their fresh vegetables, so center of la, not necessarily known for their farmers markets and fresh vegetables. What. What can you give to somebody? What tip can you give to somebody in a city to maybe find something more healthy, more better?

Amy Todisco: 00:09:53

Yeah, so. Well, I think some cities actually do have pretty decent farmers markets and they're bringing produce in from places like Vermont.

So that would be one thing to check the best. Well, you know, there's online places where you can source good stuff.

There's something called Misfits Market, and I haven't used them in a while, but they sell the ugly produce that's organic, that's, you know, not perfect looking, so that it doesn't sell as easily on the shelf. When I First started the subscription, I thought it was really good, and then a few times down, it wasn't quite as good.

So I haven't used it in a while. But I imagine they've probably figured out whatever the quality control issues were. But those. Those are some options that you can use that.

There are some online retailers that you can sign up and, you know, get really good quality stuff. So that'd be another thing to try.

Kristina: 00:10:47

Yeah. And we were talking about those picky kids because we work with a lot of families and they are picky about eating different things.

Do you have some suggestions on how to get those kids to eat those veggies?

Amy Todisco: 00:10:57

Yeah. So it's. It's a little bit of a struggle, I'm sure, because sometimes they don't even want to try something new.

However, things you can try is like a piece of organic celery and put some organic peanut butter in it with maybe a few raisins on it. You know, that's one thing that seems to go over fairly well. Dips and fresh carrots can often be very popular. Getting.

One of the things that I did notice with kids is if you can get them involved in gardening, even if you just have an apartment and you have a sunny windowsill, you can get them planting things. Right.

You can grow some herbs, for example, or, you know, if you're lucky, and you have an actual garden space involving the children in selecting the seeds and helping, you know, plant. And it's kind of a magical experience to see. I mean, I know you don't love it so much herb, but for some.

Some of us, you know, the whole idea of taking a seed and turning it into this incredible plant, and then here it's producing this incredibly delicious food that's really nutritious. So that. That could be a fun way of doing things with kids, with food.

Herb: 00:12:02

Yeah. So, yeah, I used to have a joke. It's like they call it gardening to mask the fact that it's yard work. So.

But again, as I've gotten older, I have softened on that, and I do have some planter boxes because it's like having it up in the air is so much easier than the dirt for me. But again, I. I hurt my head. I got into a whole lot of. Of interesting things.

And so the Schumann residents and having your hand in the dirt and being in nature, because part of what helped me with my brain damage and bring me out of that was, was actually some plant medicines. And when you get into plant medicines, it gives you a different viewpoint on life.

Amy Todisco: 00:12:49

Absolutely.

Herb: 00:12:49

And the connectivity of all things. And then you actually go more into a lot of these. These natural directions.

Amy Todisco: 00:12:56

Totally agree with you. So here's a fun fact about really healthy soil.

Like, you get in on an organic farm soil versus dirt, like a conventional farm, it would be really dirt that doesn't have a lot of life to it.

But the microorganisms inside a healthy soil, if you breathe that, you know, if you're playing in the dirt, gardening, whatnot, it actually has been scientifically documented that it creates a serotonin response in the brain, the happy hormone. So that's kind of a cool thing. So that might be one of the reasons why some folks like to garden.

Herb: 00:13:27

Yeah. Well, I grew up in the mountains out in the middle of nowhere, so I was. I was always climbing trees and playing in the dirt.

So I was not a city kid by any stretch. So, yeah, I very rarely got sick because I was always dirty. That's awesome.

Amy Todisco: 00:13:41

And that's actually a thing they do say that, like farmers, kids, for example, who are in the dirt all the time are much healthier, typically, than, you know, people who live in homes that are constantly being disinfected and cleaned.

Kristina: 00:13:53

Yeah, yeah.

And that's one of the things we encourage with our families who, when they're trying to think of experiences for their kids, like, let them get dirty. Let them play.

Amy Todisco: 00:14:01

Yes.

Kristina: 00:14:02

Yeah. Let them go dig in the dirt. Matter of fact, we just had another guest on recently for sensory gardens and natural play gardens.

And she said, you know, part of their sensory place was the mud factory.

Herb: 00:14:13

The mud kitchen.

Kristina: 00:14:14

The mud kitchen, that's right. And they played in the mud and they made their mud cakes and all those kinds of things. So those things are so important for our families. Right.

To be having those experiences and things like that.

Herb: 00:14:27

So now. Now, kind of a setup question for why you should take your kids out of school.

Let's talk about the food quality and what they're serving our children in public education.

Kristina: 00:14:37

Oh, gosh, a little bit about that.

Amy Todisco: 00:14:40

Yes. It's terrifying.

And we're a little bit luckier here in Vermont in that some schools actually have contracts with local farmers like us to bring in organic produce and, you know, better quality food.

But, yes, typically the food that goes into schools or and hospitals for that matter, is some of the most toxic processed stuff, you know, that you can find. It's definitely not a healthy. Not on a healthy meal.

Herb: 00:15:09

So for. For people who do need to send their kids to school, what do you recommend?

Amy Todisco: 00:15:15

Well, if they can bring their own Lunch, that would be ideal. And I understand that, you know, some kids don't like to be the oddball that brings their own lunch.

Ironically, my daughter when she was young did not love the fact that I was into this whole non toxic lifestyle.

Herb: 00:15:30

Right.

Amy Todisco: 00:15:30

Because it made her feel different than other kids. Although she loves the food, but you know, now that she's 31, she doesn't necessarily replicate it completely on her own.

But I think, you know, trying to make the food interesting and having your kids participate in making their own lunch or making suggestions about what they'd like to eat. You know, if they love Mac and cheese, maybe you can get an organic version. Right? That's one of the grass fed organic Mac and cheeses.

It depends on each child. You know, some, some are more open than others and some are a little more stubborn and maybe aren't as willing.

But if you keep introducing it in your meals at home, I think that's one way it's sort of to expand children's palates so that they get to taste things and maybe they develop a liking for something that they would have normally said. Gross. That's not for me.

Herb: 00:17:59

So we kind of talked about this a little bit earlier with the different topic, but organic label. There are so many things that are labeled as organic that still aren't healthy. What are some tips that parents can use to. Okay, it says organic.

I'm going to get this. What, what do they need to look at? What besides organic? How do they make sure it's healthy? Because they can't just say organic.

Because now 90% of the stuff in the stores is organic, even though it's super processed, filled with tons of sugar, maybe has things that aren't organic, but just enough is in it that's organic. What do parents need to look at?

Amy Todisco: 00:18:38

Sure. Okay, so really what you're looking for is organic whole foods. That's one of the key things, the whole food part.

So for example, if you're looking on a label, you're looking for USDA certified organic. Now I was not a huge fan of the USDA getting into the whole certifying agency process. However, that's what we have.

And thankfully, you know, they, they wanted to water things down, but they, because of public outcry said no. Okay, we're going to keep it the way that it should be, the way that it was developed when organic certification first started.

So USDA certified organic is one thing to look for. There are different versions of organic. So it can say made with organic ingredients or just plain organic. So you're really wanting to read the label.

That's the key thing. And if you see things that don't sound like a whole food, then you probably want to skip that and try to choose something.

So I'm thinking of bread, for example. If you see a whole grain bread and it says organic, and you look and you see, oh, okay, this looks pretty good.

There's organic flour, and maybe there's seeds. And, you know, trying to avoid vegetable oils is a pretty smart move.

You know, trying to go with things that are made with olive oil or avocado or coconut oil, because seed oils are very inflammatory, inflammation producing in our body. So that would be some. Some of the things to look for. But definitely look for the USDA certifying label to see if it is actually certified organic.

If it just has the word organic and there's no accompanying, you know, logo, then it may not be.

Herb: 00:20:24

Yeah, so another. Another funny thing.

Kristina: 00:20:26

What?

Herb: 00:20:27

You know, weird. Weird brain. Brain injury. Takes me weird places. But you're talking about Whole Foods.

We actually have a grocery chain out here in the Northwest called Whole Foods.

Amy Todisco: 00:20:35

Oh, yes.

Herb: 00:20:36

Sometimes I've gone in there and it's like their Whole foods are not all whole foods.

Amy Todisco: 00:20:40

Not anymore.

Herb: 00:20:41

Because the name of the store is that you also still need to be careful in some of these stores that are touted as, like, super healthy or whole foods.

Amy Todisco: 00:20:50

I would say that that's probably the case with all natural food stores now, because what I've noticed over time is that they've started to sort of expand their product line to be a little bit more inclusive of more mainstream stuff to try to get more shoppers in there. I think Whole Foods, when it first started, was a pretty pure idea, and they had really good stuff in there.

But I've definitely seen, because we have it here in the Northeast, I've seen a lot of product products in there that really shouldn't be even in Vermont.

Some of our natural food stores that started out really, you know, toeing the line have kind of gotten lax about it and have included things in there that I don't really think should be there. Okay, so that's a really good point.

Kristina: 00:21:34

Perfect. So let's shift away from food a little bit because there's the whole other thing, you know, like you said, the toxins in our house.

And I know we can't go too deep into it, but, like, what's maybe like the highest priority one that you would suggest families take care of or the easiest one to switch out, if that makes sense.

Amy Todisco: 00:21:51

Okay. Yeah. So I would say one of the key things to try to eliminate is anything with a fragrance because those fragrances are super toxic.

So air fresheners, so called, get rid of the plugins. You know, there, there are alternatives.

Like there's a product that has pure essential oils that are in a plugin and that's all that's in there and that's a great alternative. Or you can get instead of the scented candles that you might find at, you know, the typical stores, beeswax candles.

They smell great, they burn cleaner and they burn longer and they're just really pretty. You know, there's. What I tend to think of is what am I being exposed to 24,7 laundry detergent.

Yeah, that's one thing that, you know, it's in our clothes, it's in our, you know, sheets and pillowcases, etc. So at the very least try to go with a product that has, you know, no perfume, no scent.

It's a little bit tricky with free and clear because sometimes they put other chemicals in there to mask the smell. But it's not necessarily free and clear of all kinds of stuff. But it's a step in the right direction. I have to say.

There are some trade offs that I'm willing to make that maybe, you know, with laundry, others who are used to using products that are, you know, making everything totally pristine white. I've kind of accepted that my clothes are not pristine after I wash them a few times and wear them.

But I think, you know, thinking about what is in your clothes and in your bedding, and I think those are something you can swap out fairly easily even from just a regular supermarket. You know, look for the things on the shelf that say, you know, no perfumes, no optical brighteners, things like that.

Kristina: 00:23:42

Okay, that makes sense. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, the fragrancing is really amazing and interesting because when I was younger they didn't bother me.

But now even just walking down like the soap aisles and things like.

Amy Todisco: 00:23:56

Totally.

Kristina: 00:23:56

Especially when the fragrances are combined and mixed, my eyes start watering and I just don't feel good. And it's like I avoid places.

Amy Todisco: 00:24:04

I think it's an important point to make that, you know, some people are actually chemically sensitive and so to be exposed to any of that sends them into a very toxic reaction. Our bodies are designed to heal.

However, young children are more susceptible, just like pets in the home are more susceptible to these types of chemicals. As far as reaction. And the way I often like to describe it is if we imagine our Body is kind of a rain barrel.

Every time we get exposed to something, it's kind of filling the layers of that barrel up to the top. And usually once we reach the top, that's when we start to have symptoms.

Oftentimes people will have symptoms that they don't necessarily think that it could even be related to something that they're exposed to. Right. So maybe somebody has frequent headaches or their nose is always running or their eyes are itching.

It's possible that that kind of reaction has come from something they're being exposed to. And the reason I love to focus on what we bring into our home, whether it's food or household products, is because we have 100% control over that.

Right. We can't really control what's happening outside. And so the feeling of, oh, okay, I have some power here.

I can make a different choice so that I can allow my body to heal the way it's supposed to by not putting all this toxic stuff into it and around it.

Herb: 00:25:26

Yeah, yeah. So I'm. I'm sensitive to synthetic fiber, so I try and make most of my clothes like cotton.

Amy Todisco: 00:25:32

Okay.

Herb: 00:25:33

Because I'll like a lot of these polar fleece things. I. I can, like, just put my feet on it, like, just stand on it, and then I'll start sweating because it's. It's really. So I. I'm sensitive to.

So I know that. That. That carpets and couches and furniture and all the things that we bring into the house have. Have these things.

And, you know, our kids are crawling around in the carpet. So what. What can we do if we do have a carpet and we need to make it less bad? Is there stuff.

Amy Todisco: 00:26:09

So there's a couple, yeah. It depends on whether it's old.

First of all, if it's an old carpet, then chances are it's outgassed already, which means that, you know, those toxic chemicals that were in it when it was new have already dissipated. So that's better.

And ideally, if you can get rid of a carpet, like, if it's getting really nasty and it, you know, it doesn't even look good, you can replace it with something better. Like a solid wood floor or ceramic tile is a great thing. There's some cool things, like cork, natural cork floor.

I actually refinished a basement floor once with cork, and it was really cool.

However, if it's a new carpet, there are products, and I believe the company is afm, like Amy Frank Magic afm, that sells a product that you can actually put on the carpet that seals it. So that it doesn't outgas as much.

So if you really want that carpet, because maybe it was expensive and you think it looks wonderful, there are ways that you can help mitigate that. Those fumes.

Herb: 00:27:13

Or because you don't like hardwood floors because they make your feet cold.

Amy Todisco: 00:27:17

Oh, yeah. Well, unless you have radiant heat, like we do, which is nice to have under. Under the wood floor. Yeah. But, yeah, so.

And you can also get some good wool carpets. So there are some. Some ones that are not toxic.

They're going to be a lot more expensive, but they are made better, typically, and they usually will last longer.

I mean, one of the things about synthetic fibers, it's such a bummer, is that every time we wash them, besides what happens to you, but every time we wash them, those fibers are breaking down and creating microplastics. Right. We have so much plastic in our environment that we end up eating something like a credit card's worth of plastic.

I forget if it's every week or every month, but we humans, without realizing it, are eating a ton of plastic. And we know how much is in the oceans and, you know, therefore getting into the fish, yada, yada, yada. So the.

The best we can do is just become more aware, and as we become aware, then we can make better choices.

Kristina: 00:28:19

Absolutely love that. Perfect. We are running close on time.

So one of the questions we always like to ask near the end, is there, was there a certain thing that you wanted to say that we kind of led you astray from or didn't ask, then let you have a chance to talk about?

Amy Todisco: 00:28:35

No, I think the only thing I'm thinking about is pets. A lot of people have pets and love them and they want to do the best they can with them.

And so that's a whole nother topic of understanding what you feed your pet makes a difference. If you're using flea and tick products, that's bringing in some toxins not only to the pet, but also to the family. So that's another area to look at.

Herb: 00:28:59

Yeah. When I was growing up, our dogs would live to be 15, 16 years old. And now if you can get a dog to 10 years, they're like, amazing.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:07

I know. I have a dog who's 17, almost 18.

Kristina: 00:29:11

Wow.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:11

Yeah. He's a Chinese crested powder puff.

Herb: 00:29:17

Because little dogs do tend to live longer. Our last little dog we kept alive for 19 years.

Kristina: 00:29:23

Oh, wow.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:24

That's impressive.

Herb: 00:29:25

Yeah. And it was still hard to let. To let him go.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:28

Absolutely.

Kristina: 00:29:28

It was time.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Herb: 00:29:31

So towards the end, it's like we were hand feeding him raw, very good food. And so, like the last five or six years, I've been making a lot.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:41

Of better than ours. Yep, I understand.

Kristina: 00:29:47

Awesome. Well, Amy, make sure you say out loud and we'll try and we'll connect and get things to put in the show notes as well.

But say out loud how families can get a hold of you, how they can find out more, how can they work on this thing called green living. Yeah.

Amy Todisco: 00:29:59

Yeah.

So the best place to learn more is on my website, which is greenlivingnow.com and I have a free, free guide that basically tells you what the most toxic things are in your home. So that's a good place to start. So if you want to grab that, then we can go from there and see, you know, what I can do to support, folks.

Kristina: 00:30:22

Excellent. Thank you so very, very much.

Amy Todisco: 00:30:25

My pleasure.

Kristina: 00:30:26

Yeah, this has been a wonderful interview. I'm so glad that we got paired up today.

Amy Todisco: 00:30:30

Oh, me too.

Kristina: 00:30:32

Exactly. So, audience, there you go. You just have a whole bunch more wonderful information to helpfully make your family healthy, happy, and successful.

And remember, education isn't only about academic learning. It's about whole life learning, making sure that you're connected and learning about everything that can help your family be the best that it can be.

So make sure that you're taking all these nuggets, doing the best you can. Don't get overwhelmed, like Amy said, little bits at a time, and just keep chipping away at it.

Herb: 00:31:02

Because once you get started, if you start to see an improvement, you'll want to make it a little better. And you want to make it a little better. So don't wait to get started. Get started now. Do as little as you can. It's better than doing nothing.

And as you start to see the improvements, you will bring in more. So it's a great place to get started.

Kristina: 00:31:21

Excellent. All right, audience, until next time, please make sure you like or review the podcast Bringing Education Home. Let us know how you're liking the show.

Email us all the information is down there. Let us know what we can do to help you and bring more wonderful guests like Amy on. All right, everybody, until next time. Talk to you later.

Herb: 00:31:41

Bye for now.

Kristina: 00:31:42

Bye for now.